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Summary of a meeting in London - 9th-11th November 2000

Following numerous obstacles (Appendix 1) we reached London hotel at 2200 hrs.

After dinner at the hotel we discussed possible ways of presenting our case to the media.

On Friday at 0900 we convened in the conference hall of the Tavistock Hotel, a 2-minute walk from our own hotel. All discussions conducted were translated to Arabic and English by Naziah Khadour and Rami Elhanan respectively.

Attending the meetings were:

The Palestinian delegation: Ramadan el Azmi, Atidal el Azmi, Mahmoud el Azmi, Adib Mahanah.

The Israeli delegation: Roni Hirshenson, Rami Elhanan, Naziah Khadour Ayelet Shahak, Mashka Litvak and Yitzhak Frankenthal.

Non-participants attending the meeting: Sigal Buchman (our photographer) Talia Ha-ezrahi and Louis (British photographers) and Eyal Nahshon from Yediot Aharonot.

Precis of the discussion:


Yitzhak Frankenthal stressed the importance of conveying unified messages to the attending media. He pointed out the importance of Ramadan voicing his pain and bereavement and Adib speaking as representative of the bereaved Palestinian families. He also stressed the importance of not entering into politics, a policy maintained since the group was formed, and which must also be observed in the forthcoming meetings. He raised the question of whether or not to bring before the media the subject of Jerusalem and the right of return (of the Palestinian refugees) and expressed his view that this subject should be raised rather than be swept under the carpet. He expressed his views that both nations, the Israeli and Palestinian, can find a solution on these two issues by arrangements that the Western Wall and the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem remain under Israeli sovereignty whilst El-Akza and the rest of East Jerusalem will come under Palestinian sovereignty. On the issue of refugees he suggested that an international fund be set up that will contribute to the issue of family reunification but will allow token reunification in Israel to divided families.

Roni Hirshenson suggested that each one will speak on behalf of the group so that the group we present itself as a single group of bereaved families who are representatives of Israeli and Palestinian people rather than representatives of the two nations' leaders.

Rami Elhanan suggested that the group call to its leaders with a warning we are on the precipice facing a sea full of people's blood into which we are about to fall.

At this point the group was joined by Eyal Nahshon of Yediot Aharonot, S. Holmes from Reuters, a journalist from the Daily Telegraph, a representative from the British Foreign Office, Sir Steinberg and Sheikh Zaki Badri Chairmen of the Three Faiths Movement.

A round of introduction of all participants ensued.

The Foreign Office representative presented a letter from Foreign Secretary Robin Cook that spoke about Britain's wish to be involved in bringing about a cease fire and cooling down the heated situation and return to the peace discussions.

Yitzhak Frankenthal asked that the Foreign Office use its influence on the British Embassy in Israel to provide the group with financial assistance. He pointed out that the group is not a political party but of private individuals who want and strive for peace extensively.

Naziah Khadour suggested enlisting Britain to apply its influence on the EU by affording help for the peace dialogue.

Sir Steinberg and Sheikh Zaki Badri spoke about the organization of the three faiths Jewish, Muslim and Christian which they head.

The meeting closed at 1600 hrs and the group returned to the hotel for lunch.

At 1730 hrs a tour of London was arranged for the Palestinians.

Saturday 11th November, 2000

Discussions began at 0930 hrs.

Also present was Eyal Nahshon of Yediot Aharonot

Yitzhak Frankenthal described Ramadan and his family's courage by participating in the meeting and inquired whether their lives will be in danger on their return to Gaza. He asked that Mahmoud be reimbursed for loss of earning but Mahmoud said that he does what he does for the sake of peace and therefore is not prepared to accept any money. It is the group's duty to speak with whoever necessary so that the Ramadan family is not hurt. Mr. Frankenthal added that two more group members could not attend for fear of passing through Israel on their way to the Ben Gurion airport (the Rafah crossing was shut down and there was no way of reaching Cairo to catch a flight to London as originally planned).

Ramadan indicated that he puts his trust on Adib and that he does not feel his life is in danger in Gaza. Ramadan asked Adib to go to the UNWRA offices (where he works) and advise them of the group's departure and return. He has taken several days off and they are fully aware of his destination and its purpose. Adib promised to comply.

Adib further described the difficult week he spent with the Palestinian Authority in order to ensure that those who attended will not come to any harm. He went on to say that we must not lose those Israelis who support peace. He applied to those who want peace even more than himself and therefore no harm will come to the Ramadans. He indicated that everyone came out of pain at the killings even though they were told not to sit with Israelis. He added that having finalized his arrangements with the Palestinian Authority Adib went to his own people with the aim of convincing them in spite of existing hostilities in Gaza, which proved very difficult. He was fully aware that on his return the group will be criticized but intends to continue.

Yitzhak Frankenthal asked again whether Ramadan, his wife and son's lives were in danger but Adib affirmed that this is not the case neither by the Hamas or the Islamic Jihad's. Yitzhak outlined the possibility of a civil war (in Israel) against the settlers. He stated that in this case he prefers to live in peace with the settlers at the cost of having no peace in Israel, rather than have a civil war within the country, which is a possibility when the settlements will have to be dismantled. The internal problems within Israel are immense.

Rami Elhanan outlined the future bereavement on the Palestinian side. As a result of Ehud Barak's soft hand towards violence in the occupied territories most Israelis are now leaning to the right of the political map. He wondered what the developments on the Palestinian side will be once the right wing comes into power.

Adib said that in this Intifadah Ehhud Barak took a harder line than all previous right wing governments. He present killings on the Palestinian side is considerable. The Palestinians are fed up with the peace talks which is all they are - talks and talks. The Palestinian want a state and until this happens the Intifadah and the killings will continue.

Yitzhak Frankenthal indicated that he has heard similar words from others. Ehud Barak wanted to establish peace with the Palestinians. From the strategic aspect Barak was prepared to pay the price and said so to Arafat at Camp David but he cannot afford to appear weak in the eyes of Israeli public after the Palestinians have chosen violence and force.

Roni Hirshenson said that whilst the group is talking about peace in London, Israelis and Palestinians are being killed. The Palestinians feel inferior, the balance of power is against them and it is hard to ask these people to wait even further, but on the other hand only talks will bring a peace agreement and an end to the killing. He pointed out that the situation could be worse if talks were nonexistent and that a way must be found to improve the present situation.

Mahmoud expressed his feeling that there is no difference between the Likud and the Labour party. Any Israeli prime minister who adopts a straight line will be unsuccessful. All Israeli prime ministers from Shamir, through Rabin r.i.p. Shimon Peres, Netanyahu and Ehud Barak have adopted one line - talks. Since Yitzhak Rabin's assassination nothing more has been done on the Israeli side for peace. Shimon Peres too did not do much. Netanyahu gave back Hebron and Gaza and that is all. Therefore as far as the Palestinians are concerned there is no difference whether Likud or Labour is in power.

Ramadan said that it makes no difference what party is in power, he is only interested in peace. What is important to the Palestinians is their own state. He pointed out that Israelis lack nothing in their own home and land whereas those who live in Gaza have nothing. After 10 years of peace talks there are no results in deeds. He added that people in Gaza shout at him because he talks to Israelis about peace. Yitzhak asked what can be done to help.

Naziah asked why have the borders been closed. People in Israel want the Palestinians to work in agriculture in Israel, but terrorist acts in Jerusalem and bus bombing in Dizengoff Center in Tel Aviv, Apropos Cafe, as well as in Hadera, Afula, Haifa and Beit Lid hit hard at the Israeli people. If the border barriers will be open there is a possibility of more terrorist acts. He added that Ehud Barak finds himself currently alone in the Knesset in his struggle for peace. He walks alone towards peace. The violence of this Intifadah must first and foremost stop because nothing is gained through violence. Yitzhak added his view that Israelis too understand the language of force.

Adib pointed out that after 10 years of peace talks he does not feel that he is treated as a partner for peace, besides, those workers who enter Israel are not those involved in terrorist acts. Yitzhak disagreed with this comment. He pointed out that there were people who came to work in Israel and stabbed their landlords.

Mahmoud said that peace was indeed noticeable in Gaza. There is a sector that is very comfortable with the peace. It is those who are close to the Authority. They have plush cars, they can come to Tel Aviv whenever they want and maintain a high standard of living. The average working man does not feel the peace and that constitutes the majority. The upper echelon has established for itself a position with money and lives well, whereas the poor people must influence this upper echelon, just to be able to survive.

Ramadan indicated that the Intifadah will not end until there will be a comprehensive peace. Palestinians do not want Haifa or Jaffa even though his wife was born in Jaffa.

Rami Elhanan pointed out that the group is discussing high politics. Words that were said were true and it is clear to anyone that we are about to enter a new situation and since the crisis is about to intensify it is important that this unique group will have an influence on the peace process. He inquired what must be done and said to leaders of both nations. He asked that the topic of discussion be changed and wanted brainstorm the group's creative sense. How can the group build the bridge to peace and avoid the catastrophe that is about to happen. Yitzhak agreed with Rami and wrecked his mind what else can be done. The group went to Sachknin to pay its respects to the bereaved Arab Israeli families on the very day the Ramallah lynch (of an Israeli citizen) took place. He added Israelis have an internal problem with Israeli Arabs who live in the country.

Mashka Litvak said that she experienced bereavement throughout her live and does not know any other reality and this is what brought her to act politically for peace ever since Anwar Sadat visited Israel. He said her views are that the settlements are an obstacle to peace. Whatever happens, they will have to either evacuate or live under Palestinian rule. It may take a year or two, maybe even twenty, but eventually there will be a return to the l967 borders. The problem is that many graves are being dug in the soil of both nations, and many more bereaved families like ourselves will be added to the list. A neighborhood like Gilo which overlooks Beit Jallah should not have been built in the first place. Anyone who made his home beyond the l967 border knows deep inside that a day will come, peace agreements will be reached and he will have to decide whether to return home (to Israel) or live under the rule of a Palestinian state. He added that Israel has become a nation of conquerors for the past 33 years. Anything the group will do without the attention of the media will be wasted. If the group will set up a Peace Tent in Russell Square, or in his front lawn or at the Erez Crossing no one will be aware unless there is a good media coverage. Netzarim must be evacuated and be titled as "Netzarim First".

Roni made a practical suggestion. All the group can do is a token action. The Israeli army cannot be forced to take action. The group can set up a tent once a week at the Erez Junction and call to evacuate Netzarim because it puts our soldiers' lives in jeopardy, and this will avoid further bloodshed. If one single soul will be saved, it will be a great deed. To sit and not do anything is the worst. He added that he has no strength to do this now but want to sound the most sane of voices with a call to evacuate Netzarim.

Ayalet Shahak said she agreed with Roni. The current Intifadah days are very difficult for her, and the less done the more frustrated she became. The idea of a tent on Fridays at the Erez Junction is a good idea. This Intifadah has made her believe that evacuating the settlements is essential, and the sooner the better.

Itzhak noted that again the group is reverting to politics. He does not think that the peace treaty will bring to the evacuation of all settlements, which is not realistic. He believes that land exchange is more viable, the land on which the settlements are located in exchange for land elsewhere. But he too believes that the group must concentrate its efforts on the evacuation of Netzarim. Resolutions are part of politics and Netzarim can be a model and therefore the Netzarim subject must receive an immediate concerted attention.

Mahmoud asked what is the first action of anyone stabbed in the back. Does he take the knife out, and goes to the doctor or does he run to the doctor first and then takes out the knife? He equated this to the subject of Netzarim. Roni explained that what he meant was that the Palestinians will call to their leaders and Israelis will call to their own leaders.

Ramadan agreed and supported Roni's idea about the tent at the Erez Junction where the call must come out for the evacuation of Netzarim. People from both governments should be invited to listen.

Rami said that all that has been done including the activities carried out had an impact through the media. He agreed with every word expressed by Mashka. Without the media the group's actions have no meaning. He wondered how to focus and pinpoint the activities and what should be done to avoid the terrible tragedy.

Naziah suggested two tents. The Israeli tent will call for the evacuation of Netzarim and the Palestinian tent will call to stop the violence and the Intifadah.

Adib stated that they could not use their influence to end the Intifadah, they can only come to you (the Israelis) and support you. Itzhak had an idea: was it possible to organize Palestinian mothers come and declare that they do not send their children to throw stones, kill and be killed. Adib agreed to try and organize this. Roni has suggested that Israeli and Palestinian mothers walk towards the Erez junction from both sides of the border with banners stating that their children are dear to them.

Mahmoud who is a teacher said he could bring many children from his school to the peace tent and to the march of peace. Ramadan suggested that a fax be sent to leaders of both nations. Yitzhak said that a document has been drafted and sent before returning to Israel. He read out the document and received overall endorsement.

Ayelet disagreed with Rami who saw everything so dark. She wanted to believe that things will improve. She added that there present (in the conference room) are two representatives of the young generation - Mahmoud and Alik. She would have loved her daughter to sit and listen and suggested an idea for better days to come, when this young generation can be educated.

Alik (Rami Elhann's son joined the group on Saturday morning, having come from France to see his father) said he has been out of Israel for the past two years and has not witnessed the present Intifadah. The voices he hears from Israel are unequivocal, there are no voices for reconciliation, your group, he added, must got out to the media in order to sound one single sane voice from the country. He wanted to hear a voice from the Israeli side that does not call for war. He wants to call for immediate evacuation of Netzarim and make it known that there are Israelis who want peace and others who oppose it. There are two concepts one of which is not heard in Israel but which he has heard in the conference room. He believes that there must be someone to voice the first call and later be joined by others. Rami asked how can members of the younger generation be partners? Alik replied that they can join the group as individuals and not as the "younger generation". The understanding amongst the group members exists and he saw no way to deepen the ties.

Mahmoud said that relationship with Alik will be difficult for him although he sincerely wants to maintain them, the reason being that he (Alik) studies in France and he (Mahmoud) lives in Gaza. In the past the entire group met several times in Gaza and in Israel but during these meetings he did not meet people as young as he was. He watches TV and there is a program called "Encounters". He expressed his will to be interviewed for this program. He further added that his peers will have to decide whether or not peace will prevail, being the future generation.

Alik said that people his age that are close to being enlisted to the army feel closely knitted and very protective towards each other and they therefore find it difficult to come out against their own friends who act as they do in the occupied territories. He said it is unacceptable to go against one's own grain. He added that those present must shout their views and he believes that it is possible to break this chain.

Ayelet said that Ofri her son is "fighting" to have Itzhak come to talk to his class.

Ramadan has asked that every possible effort be made to release the Palestinian youth imprisoned in Israel. Yitzhak stated that the group convenes in order to contribute towards peace but the group cannot do everything. He reminded those present that he tried to help with the request (for release) but to no avail. He suggested a delegation that will meet both Arafat and Barak and perhaps the UN General Secretary and the US President in order to influence. The delegation will consist of both Israeli and Palestinian families. He added that he sees Netzarim settlement as a problem and suggested that perhaps several houses be rented in the settlements and that Palestinian families be brought there and build a mosque. With this act the settlers will perhaps come to understand how Palestinians feel.

Rami said that brothers and sisters of bereaved parents suffer no less than their parents. We can embrace them. He regards it as an utmost importance to enlist bereaved brothers and sisters who can break the wall built around the "tribe" amongst young people and they can also form a kind of support group that will help our own group. He regarded Ayelet's suggestion as excellent and suggested that one of the youngsters be appointed to form a group of young bereaved brothers.

Yitzhak added that his own children who joined him at the Gainosar meeting told him that they want to things changed. We talk about our past whilst they talk about their future.

Roni indicated that it’s a different case with Palestinian children as they cannot think about the future assuming that they accept the present situation. He added that Yitzhak's children, for example, are dreamers if they believe that they will have a better future if there is no peace.


1. A fax will be sent to the heads of the Israeli and Palestinian states Barak and Arafat in line with the draft read out.

2. A mobile/foot voyage headed "Netzarim First". Mothers will convene at the Erez Junction.

3. A protest of mothers from Tel Aviv to the Erez Junction and from Gaza to the Erez Junction.

4. A permanent mission will be set up that will alternate regularly to meet the regional and world leaders in order to sound their voice.

5. To organize the young generation (Ayelet has undertaken this on herself).

Discussions ended at 1500 hrs. The Palestinians went for a short tour of London.

At 1800 hrs the group traveled to the airport on its way back to Israel.

Sunday at 0510 the group returned to Israel.

At the end of the meeting a summary was issued (Appendix 2).

Appendix 1


Organizing a Meeting Between Israeli & Palestinian Bereaved Parents in Support of Peace – London, Nov. 9-11, 2000


Saturday Night 4/11/00 22:30

Due to the tension in our area a suggestion came up to urgently meet with the Palestinian bereaved parents and try and convey the following messages through the Israeli, Palestinian and European Media:

Reconcilliation between Peoples starts with reconcilliation between bereaved parents.

Both parties agreed not to defame nor put the blame on the other side.

Now, of all times, when both nations are at battle, we, who paid the dearest and most painful price of all sit together discussing Peace, so that our publics will get the following messages:

1. We are all deeply sorry for the death of innocent people.

2. If WE can sit and talk – so can anyone. Everybody needs and has to sit down and talk.

3. We lost a child yet we do not seek revenge - only Peace.

4. We all condemn violence.

5. Only a serious negotiation for peace, on the basis of willingness to understand the other side’s needs, can solve the conflict.

6. Each day that passes without resuming the talks is a wasted day.

7. It is possible & mandatory to reach a peaceful solution.

This is the first time in the history of wars that bereaved parents on both sides, who were supposed to hate each other, project a genuine, warm reconcilliation while there is fighting still going on between their peoples.

We need the courage to stand beside our children’s graves.

We need the wisdom to reconcile so there will be no more dead.

No – there is no forgiveness here: we do not forgive. We reconcile and start afresh.

Administrative Note: We wanted to organize a meeting in Israel, but Palestinians cannot enter Israel, neither can Israelis enter Gaza. We therefore decided to arrange the meeting in London. We all did not wish to miss more working and studying days than necessary and we could return early Sunday morning from London, so that is why this specific location was chosen.

Sunday, 5/11/00

1. Talking with our Palestinian partners – Hader Mughrabi, Youseff Ajrami, Adib Mahana – and receiving their OK.

2. Talking with members of the Israeli Families’ Forum and receiving their OK.

3. Checking costs.

4. Preparing a Proposal – see Appendix #A

Monday, 6/11/00

1. Approaching various foundations and donors for money-raising.

2. Getting a call from Adib – 1st problem – the Palestinian Authority opposes the meeting.

3. Phone call to Palestinian Minister and getting an OK.

4. Phone call from the Minister to Adib, giving OK.

5. Organizing Israelis who can travel and receiving their OK.

6. Searching for a hotel. an Airline and booking rooms.

7. 2nd problem – the Palestinians cannot fly from Ben-Gurion Airport, agreed that they would fly from Cairo.

8. Price of Israeli Travelling agent - $1500 per passenger Cairo-London-Cairo.

9. Adib succeeds in getting a better price- $700 – from an agent in Gaza.

10. Agreed to transfer money to Adib so he could purchase the tickets in Gaza.

11. 3rd problem – the Palestinians need visas for England – Israelis are exempt. Issueing of visas by British Consulate in Jerusalem – how would the passports get to Israel and back to gaza?

12. Four of the Palestinians have expired passports, an additional cost of NIS 1400 ($345).

13. The computer is making trouble, sends faxes & E-mails on and off.

14. The secretary is seek, worked ½ day.

Tuesday, 7/11/00

1. Adib: 4th problem: the Palestinian Authority refuses to allow the meeting although the Minister approved. Solution: the Minister talks with appropriate persons, again we get an OK.

2. The travel agent declares that if we have a cancellation, the hotel will charge us $750. Decision: to carry on despite the risk of cancellation.

3. Cost of trip from Gaza to Cairo – 6 hours - $150 per person – OK given.

4. 5th problem – the pales.Authority will not give its consent unless it is agreed that as far as the Jerusalem issue is concerned – sovereignty is settled, i.e. the Jewish Quarter and the Wailing Wall (incl. Jewish neighborhods) under Israeli sovereignty. The rest, incl. Al-Akzah musk under Palesstinian sovereignty. OK given. Problem #5 solved.

5. 6th problem – who will welcome the Palestinians upon their arrival at London? Problem solved by an Israeli volunteer, Talya, living in London.

6. 7th problem – the hotel has no complementry conference room. Talya organized one at a nearby hotel, for 290 Pounds.

7. Talya organized a sightseeing tour of London for the Palestinians.

8. We received a donation of $7000 from the Ebert Fund.

9. Letter to Ebert Fund – fax out of order, Internet out of order, the computer is dead, a technician arrives at night to look at it.

10. The secretary is ill, didn’t come to work today.

11. We agreed to transfer "1st Aid" money to Adib – NIS 5000 – to cover travel to Cairo and for passports.

12. The British Consulate assisted via Mr. Phil Hixon, and visas will be issued tommorow in Gaza. They need photos and have to fill some forms. We determine that tommorow at 09:00 they all gather in Gaza and get their visas within an hour.

13. We try to set a meeting with Mr. Tony Blair, British Prime-minister through Israeli Prime-minister’s office.

14. Contact with American donor via Prof. Dan Brown, the University of Beer-Sheva, for contribution.

15. NIS 5000 to Adib’s account in Gaza by Bank money transfer.

16. Discussions with the Israelis, deciding who is going.

17. Talks with agents to purchase tickets for the Palestinians in Cairo. Results: price almost 3 times more expensive than in Israel.

Wedensday, 8/11/00

1. Report from Adib - they are in the Gaza office waiting for their visas.

2. At 10:45 adib calls – the money did not get to his bank account. Checking shows that money was sent yesterday but they aill only see it in their bank tommorow, Thursday. 8th problem – if Adib does not have the money by 14:00 they would not be able to go to Cairo today at 16:00.

3. Checking with the bank, we’er told Adib will only get the money tommorow, and if we transfer $4000 today for the trip from Cairo to London, it would also be seen in the Gaza bank only tommorow.

4. 11:00 I went to my bank. Adib went to his, I talked with the manager of his bank and we agreed on a money transfer. The manager would be faxed a confirmation from the Ramat gan Branch that this sum of money was transferred to Adib.

5. At 11:35 the Gaza bank manager called me and said that a special transfer should be made. I went to my bank and was told that the requested transfer is only valid for foreign currency, but they will do it upon my request.

6. The Palestinian bank manager returned to me after a few minutess, saying they could not give Adib $4000 – only tommorow, when they see the money in their account. That is the instruction he was given by Ramallah.

7. My bank manager called Ramallah and found out nothing could be done immediately. The transfer will only be registered tommorow.

8. The Gaza bank manager called again and said if we send a fax, he could perhaps give Adib the NIS 5000 we transferred yesterday, though he would need an approval for this too. As for the $4000, he could only give it to Adib tommorow. At 14:30 Adib should get flight tickets from Cairo to London and he still doesn’t have the money for the travel agent in Gaza.

9. 12:00 I went to Gaza with NIS16000 in cash for Adib.

10. 12:15 I called Aaron Barnea and asked him to get ready to replace me in a lecture I was suppose to give in Tel-Aviv at 15:30.

11. At 12:20 I called the Israeli Gaza checkpoint to check the possibility of transferring cash to Adib who would meet me at the Gaza entrance checkpoint. I called 6 times before actuaaly talking to the person in charge, and from him I realized we cannot transfer money without permission.

12. 12:35 I called Mashka Litvak and arranged to meet her outside her Kibbutz, on the way to Gaza, and she will transfer the money to Adib by my instructions.

13. 12:45 I looked for the person in charge of the Erez checkpoint in Gaza, I got to him after 4 phone calls, he toldd me he has heard what we need to do but it is impossible.

14. 13:00 I heard on the radio that a soldieress was murdered right by the Egyptian border so the Raphiaah terminal was closed and Palestinians could not leave for Cairo by car.

15. 13:10 I met Mashka and we agreed not ot deliver the money until I say so because it is possible we could not pull out a departure from Raphiah to Cairo.

16. From 13:15 until 14:15 phones to high officials to try and arrange 1. transfer of money via the Erez checkpoint 2. passage permit for the Palestinians despite the closed terminal.

17. I called Aaron Barnea and asked him to replace me and give the lecture in Tel Aviv.

18. 14:15 I started calling the Prime-minister’s office and those in charge of the security system to help me solve both problems.

19. Needless to say – endless phone calls from Adib in the last few hours.

20. 14:40 phone from Prime-minister’s office that things are being taken care of and that I will be updated shortly.

21. 15:05 – an OK to transfer money to Adib, and OK in principle to let the Palestinians go through the Rafah terminal to Egypt – final answer in 15 minutes.

22. 15:15 decided the Palestinians fly via Ben-Gurion airport and not via Cairo since all personnel – customs, passport check-point – have left Rafiah and could not be returned. Therefore – flight via Ben Gurion airport.

23. 15:20 told Mashka to return home and not wait any further near Erez checkpoint, Gaza.

24. 15:25 told Adib they would fly tommorow via Ben-Gurion airport. Asked him to verify that the Palestinians would let them pass through Israel.

25. 15:35 OK from the Palestinian Authority.

26. 15:40 Ticket booking for the Palesstinians from the Israeli travel agent. Need correct spelling of names, identical to spelling in passports.

27. 15:45 phone call to Adib in order to get list of names according to passports.

28. 17:05 Adib went to the Palestinian parents, gave me the accurate spelling and I spelled it to the travel agent.

29. 17:25 Travel agent lets me know tickets will be ready tommorow.

30. 17:35 Talked with Mashka – she will pick yp the Palestinian party tommorow, 12:30, at the Erez checkpoint.

31. 17:55 Updated Roni Hirshenzon.

32. 18:15 Talk with the persons in charge so the Palestinians go through the Ben Gurion airport tommorow according to the same procedure we do, or, alternately, we go through whatever they go through.


Appendix 2


Summing-up Notice of Palestinian & Israeli Bereaved Families’ Meeting in London, November 9-11, 2000

We have met in London rather than in Israel or in Gaza due to the security situation which prohibits the entry of Israelis into Gaza and vice versa.

According to original planning, there were supposed to be 6 Israelis and 6 Palestinians, but in fear of the passage via Israel instead of Cairo, 2 members of the Palestinian party cancelled their participation in this trip.

We are Israeli and Palestinian bereaved families who represent a group of 150 Israeli bereaved families and 120 Palestinian bereaved families.

The Summing-Up Notice:

1. We condemn violence and bloodshed.

2. We do not come to deplore but to cry out and call both sides – Enough!

3. We, who have lost our beloved ones because of the bloody conflict do not hate each other and we do not seek revenge, but Peace.

4. If we can sit down and talk so can anyone. Everybody should and needs to talk and reach Peace.

5. We call our leaders, Barak and Arafat, to reach a Peace agreement that would bring an end to the ongoing bloodshed and mutual conflict.

6. Only fulfilling the needs of both sides shall bring Peace. Without considering the other side’s needs there will be no Peace.


We agree with the above mentioned and hereby sign our names, alphabetically.

Al-Azame Aatidal - Gaza

Al-Azame Mahmud - Gaza

Al-Azame Ramadan - Gaza

Elchanan Rami - Israel

Hirshenzon Roni - Israel

Litvak Mashka - Israel

Mahane Adib - Gaza

Frankenthal Yitzhak - Israel

Kadur Naze - Israel

Shahak Ayelet - Israel

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